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USS Ranger CV4, Norway 1943 - 1/350
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2020 - 10:10 AM UTC
SI,

Nice progress, that rudder should looks short! I wonder how quickly the ship turned.

Mark
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Posted: Monday, January 06, 2020 - 09:47 PM UTC
I always like how rapidly you move forward on these, Si
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Posted: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 07:16 AM UTC
Just as Russ says, that's more than just a little progress! Very nice and clean work as always, and really fun to see her growing!

Cheers
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Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2020 - 10:02 AM UTC

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SI,

Nice progress, that rudder should looks short! I wonder how quickly the ship turned.

Mark



Thanks Mark,

Big structural bits at the moment.

I would reckon the rudder might be more effective than you think. it is a balanced rudder, the hinge point is aft of the leading edge, about 1/3rd of the way down the length, which makes it more efficient. no forgetting you can use the engines to aid the rate of turn

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2020 - 10:04 AM UTC

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I always like how rapidly you move forward on these, Si



Thanks Russ,

It does look that way when I am doing the structural stuff, wait till it's get's on to the detail work.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2020 - 10:07 AM UTC

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Just as Russ says, that's more than just a little progress! Very nice and clean work as always, and really fun to see her growing!

Cheers
Jan



Thanks Jan,

Mostly big bits, getting hanger sides ready for paint. Haven't really started on the detail stuff yet.

Glad you are enjoying the build, I do love these esoteric looking ships.

Sheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - 08:20 AM UTC
A few more big bits done.

The rear section of the hanger sides structure done.



Elevator guides on the inside of the port forward section of the hanger sides.



Port side test fitted.



basic detail added to the exterior of the sides.



Both sides test fitted in place.



Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - 08:53 AM UTC
Si,

Looks like everything is fitting nicely or did you have to fiddle with those pieces?

Mark
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Posted: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 09:53 AM UTC

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Si,

Looks like everything is fitting nicely or did you have to fiddle with those pieces?

Mark



Hi Mark,

The fit on the whole was very good, a few minor bits of feckling on a couple of the locating tabs on the forward section on the starboard side. To be fair give the size of the two sizable flexible sections at the for'd end it is quite impressive.


Thanks for looking in.

Cheers

SI
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Posted: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 05:44 PM UTC
Admirable work Simon.

As opposed to your Intrepid, Ranger's superstructure design, between hanger deck and flight deck is a great boon to this model's construction, whereas Intrepid's superstructure sat flush with the hull sides.

If my builds of Essex Class ships in 1/700 are any measure, I spend/spent more time filling those seams, between hull and superstructure, than any other part of the build.

I should note that on American carriers of that era, superstructure was considered anything above the hanger deck, Lexington and Saratoga being notable exceptions.

Carry on. I learning something new each time you post a progress report.
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Posted: Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 06:33 AM UTC

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Admirable work Simon.

As opposed to your Intrepid, Ranger's superstructure design, between hanger deck and flight deck is a great boon to this model's construction, whereas Intrepid's superstructure sat flush with the hull sides.

If my builds of Essex Class ships in 1/700 are any measure, I spend/spent more time filling those seams, between hull and superstructure, than any other part of the build.

I should note that on American carriers of that era, superstructure was considered anything above the hanger deck, Lexington and Saratoga being notable exceptions.

Carry on. I learning something new each time you post a progress report.



Thanks Chuck,

The layout of the superstructure does remove a lot of filling, there are a few places I do need to be careful with the fit.

Weather permitting I hope to get some paint on this weekend.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, January 17, 2020 - 03:57 PM UTC
Lovely work so far Si. I have always like the looks of the Ranger so might have to get one.....Cheers Mark
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Posted: Friday, January 17, 2020 - 06:10 PM UTC
Simon: I don't know if you build aircraft or not, but I ran across something that may be of interest to you while I was researching decals for another project of mine. Starfighter Decals has a set of decals available for Ranger's Operation Leader aircraft. They are available in both 1/72 and 1/48 scale. Each set includes the markings for an F4F, a TBF, and an SBD.

Thought it might be an interesting show display for you to have Ranger and the aircraft that flew from her off Norway. Evidently Ranger's aircraft were marked a bit differently than what you normally see as the color schemes on these three aircraft.
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Posted: Friday, January 17, 2020 - 10:11 PM UTC

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Lovely work so far Si. I have always like the looks of the Ranger so might have to get one.....Cheers Mark



Thanks Mark,

She is an interesting looking vessel, love the folding funnels.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Friday, January 17, 2020 - 10:15 PM UTC

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Simon: I don't know if you build aircraft or not, but I ran across something that may be of interest to you while I was researching decals for another project of mine. Starfighter Decals has a set of decals available for Ranger's Operation Leader aircraft. They are available in both 1/72 and 1/48 scale. Each set includes the markings for an F4F, a TBF, and an SBD.

Thought it might be an interesting show display for you to have Ranger and the aircraft that flew from her off Norway. Evidently Ranger's aircraft were marked a bit differently than what you normally see as the color schemes on these three aircraft.



Hi Chuck,

I do build the odd aircraft, usually Fleet Air Arm related subjects, However I have sort of promised to build something for the IMPS (UK)'s U.S. Naval Aviation SIG, this could be the idea.

Thanks for the heads up mate.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 09:26 PM UTC
Have been away for a bit of a family vacation, Si, but catching up now: those big bits are looking good
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Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 10:24 PM UTC

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Have been away for a bit of a family vacation, Si, but catching up now: those big bits are looking good



Hi Russ,

Hope you a good vacation.

After Intrepid, Nice that with little effort they fit so well. Little chilly here this morning, but if I stick the rattlecans in some warm water for 5 mins should be able to spray ok.

Thanks for looking in Mate

Cheers Si

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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 - 10:56 AM UTC
Simon: When you do Ranger's air group check and make sure they are F4F3's (non-folding wings) and not F4F4's (their wings folded).

Information I have says that Ranger carried the older model off Norway.

If this is so, and it comes from a credible source, then Ranger was the last to use the Dash 3 in combat, and that would make Ranger the first carrier to get the Dash 3 Wildcat, and the last to have them.
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Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 - 09:15 AM UTC

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Simon: When you do Ranger's air group check and make sure they are F4F3's (non-folding wings) and not F4F4's (their wings folded).

Information I have says that Ranger carried the older model off Norway.

If this is so, and it comes from a credible source, then Ranger was the last to use the Dash 3 in combat, and that would make Ranger the first carrier to get the Dash 3 Wildcat, and the last to have them.



Thanks Chuck,

That fits with what I have dug up, one particular photograph shows an F4F being lifted by a crane, there is enough in the background to be sure it is Ranger, no visible wingfold, and the stars and bars appear to have a different dark coloured outline, which would fit with the red outline which is shown on the Starfighter decals.

To play it safe I will have all the F4F's with their wings extended.

Cheers

Si

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Posted: Monday, January 20, 2020 - 10:14 AM UTC
The weather was kind enough, just, to allow me to spray the superstructure sides.

The interior walls prayed off white.



The exterior given a coat of Haze grey.



moulded detail on the interior bulkheads pick out.



Not 100% sure this is correct for Ranger as I have no references, but I have assumed the bulkheads alongside the elevators would be painted sea blue.



The bulkheads fixed down.



The flight deck test fitted.



not bad at all, just rested in place.



needs a little feckle in a couple of places.

Next will be detail fitting around the hanger deck sides.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 12:18 AM UTC
Si,

Nice paint work and the choice of colors. She is really starting to shape up nicely.

Mark
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 06:16 AM UTC
Simon: Regarding the color used on the walls of hanger decks on American carriers, in all cases I am familiar with they are white, which fast became a dirty white in service. My notion as to why white was chosen is that it probably reflects light better when the hanger deck is completely closed up.

That said your use of blue is logical in that no white would be showing when the elevators are in the down position. Plus, it looks good, and I suspect no one can tell you that you are wrong, considering that not all that much is known about Ranger. It seems that we here in the States concentrate our research more on the Pacific carriers.

Carry on my friend, you have a masterpiece in the making.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 07:11 AM UTC

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The weather was kind enough, just, to allow me to spray the superstructure sides.

The interior walls prayed off white.

Next will be detail fitting around the hanger deck sides.

Cheers

Si



Someone's been busy. Glad the weather has been behaving for you.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 05:51 AM UTC
Si,

She is coming along nicely. Looking forward to seeing the details added as you move forward.

Dave