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Posted: Friday, January 19, 2018 - 02:21 AM GMT+7
Thomas, Great looking base and funnel smoke, it really makes the model look like it is pushing it way through the water.
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 11:57 AM GMT+7
Looking good, Thomas! That ocean base really brings the ship alive. I look forward to seeing how the flags turn out.
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Posted: Thursday, January 18, 2018 - 09:27 AM GMT+7
Gentlemen, it took some time again for my next update but I was able to push the Project further toward near the finish. I completed the base today. Now there are just the national flags and some crew members missing until I can step over the finish line with this ship.

This are my efforts since last update: I did cut out a seabase out of Styrodur and sat the ship in the appropriate place inside


I did cut out some waves with a sharp cutter blade


and made a frame around out of thin Evergreen sheet


soft tissue was soaked in white glue and I covered the Surface with it in two layers. After this the surface was painted and drybrushed with different colors and airbrushed with gloss varnish several times.



Then it was time to make a sealike surface with acrylic gel in several layers - clear first, semiclear in some spots and final thinned white for some foam


And this are the final results of sea-scaping:





The two national flags were cut out of lead foil, bended and painted in the correct yellow Color. When dry I will add the kits decals at them.



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Posted: Saturday, January 06, 2018 - 03:38 AM GMT+7
Simon, that rigging seems to me the most difficult part of the whole operation here. Either I sticked with my toothpick somewhere else with the glue or the rigging wire won´t stick at once (I tried streched sprue, 0,1 mm fishing line and 0,2 mm Uschi´s rigging wire). My Patience was really contested here to the maximum and I was only a twink of an eye distant to throw everything against the wall yesterday out of Desperation . Today I gave it a new effort and was able to rig the vessel.

There is surely always space for even more rigging - especially at the masts or at the davits for the two torpedoboats. But as everything is so small and fragile (even my poor patience) I let it as it is now and, hey as a bloody rookie I feel satisfied about how it is now.

This is how it Looks rigged now:








Now I just have to think how to fix that flags? I want to fix the decals onto a leadfoil but how can I create a strong enough rope for it?
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Posted: Friday, January 05, 2018 - 05:50 AM GMT+7
Nice start with the rigging Thomas

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Thursday, January 04, 2018 - 09:00 AM GMT+7
@ Michael: Thank you for the flowers. Until now the build was a big fun for me.

Though I do have my baseplate now I wanted to try my hands today at the rigging. First I did the four fixation cables for each of both funnels (I see now there are some small spots which needs some paint for fix) and afterwards just a small job at the stern mast. As I did learned from others for rigging you need to work from inside to outside. Feel like a spider now...



To be continued tomorrow. Need to get as far as possible - next week my holidays are ending and modelling time will get more sparse again
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Posted: Monday, January 01, 2018 - 08:23 PM GMT+7
Great work Thomas. It looks very neat on the close ups. Looking forward to seeing it in the water.

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Posted: Monday, January 01, 2018 - 08:42 AM GMT+7
Looking great Thomas,

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Monday, January 01, 2018 - 08:20 AM GMT+7
First let me wish you all visitors and Followers of this blog a healthy and happy new year 2018!

@ Mark: Thank you man, but I can assure you it also takes a lot of nerves to do those #§%&!* railings

Today I finished the chapter "paint and glue together the kit and aftermarket parts" . I installed the anchors, replace the lost searchlight with an improved selfmade one, glued all the outer railings and fixed some smaller color mistakes. The lady looks very nice now but, like most nice ladies, needed to be touched with care . This are the final results now before I will try my hands with rigging wire and place the ship in its Habitat onto a sea diorama plate:

Left broadside


Right broadside


Look from the bow to the 2nd upper deck


Finished bow mast


Finished stern mast


View from the stern forward


Top view of the stern upper deck


Top view of the 2nd upper deck


Top view of the ships bow upper deck


now its time for the dio base and some strings...
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Posted: Saturday, December 30, 2017 - 09:21 AM GMT+7
Really nice work with bending those railings. It does take talent to get them looking the same at each bend.
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Posted: Saturday, December 30, 2017 - 07:07 AM GMT+7
Hello Tim, yes maybe you are right about the cumulative effect of small improvements. In the end we will see how the lady look like.

Today I had, as expected, a difficult time with installing the railings at the 2nd upper deck. Bronco force you to install the railings in three parts instead of just one for each side. This makes it, at least for me, more difficult to bend the middle part correctly and keep the correct distances with the outer railings to avoid gaps. However, after the second effort with the first middle part I succeded


This is how the deck looks with all of its railings installed


And this is the look after the 2nd upper deck was installed together with the front mast and the etched stairs already fixed too at both sides



There are just the anchors, the upper and lower shrouds for both masts, the outer railings and some small parts to fix to finish the main build. After this I will prepare the base to install the ship onto its base. Later I will do the rigging and finally the crewmembers...
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Posted: Friday, December 29, 2017 - 01:33 AM GMT+7
Thomas,

She's looking terriffic!

I can't say I agree with you about the turned brass gun barrels making little difference, though. Even though the improvement may not be that immediately dramatic, small upgrades like these throughout the build create a cumulative effect of superior detail and delicacy in a ship model that is quite noticeable. Keep up the good work!

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Posted: Thursday, December 28, 2017 - 09:19 PM GMT+7
Gentlemen, I was not lazy during the christmas days and was able to finish some build steps.

First I painted and placed some oars from the Northern Star photoetched set onto the bow and stern lifeboats. Northern Star´s oars are looking much more elaborated and crisp than these of the Blue Star etched set - the latter ones are simply way too big and simplyfied.



after this I replaced the kit´s plastic gun barrels from the stern upper deck with ORANGE HOBBY´s turned brass barrels - although the turned barrels are nice you will not see a big difference in the end though.


After placing the guns onto their sockets at the ship I added the etched shields from the BLUE STAR pe-set. You need a steady hand here not to break any other parts around


Then it was time to care about the torpedoboats. I did followed John´s advice and painted the two boats in plain white, added each two position lights with Evergreen 0,5 mm rod. After the white paint was thoroughly dry I painted the funnel in black and gave the surface details a careful pinwash with TAMIYA´s Panel line Accent Color. The superfluous Color from the pinwash was removed with a turpentin dampened brush. After this was dry I just had to paint the position lights with oil colors. And this how the two boats are looking now:


Now I am happy that I can say the aft part of the ship is completed:


There is just the bow´s anchors with their chains, the railing for the 2nd upperdeck and the ships outer railings remaining - land is in sight!

Cheers

Thomas
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Posted: Monday, December 25, 2017 - 01:27 PM GMT+7
I think your'e right about the boats being white from the photograph Thomas, I would not take the drawing too literally though, way too much room for artistic licence on the artists part.
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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 09:44 PM GMT+7
Thanks Michael,

I also have never seen these kinds of boats loaded onboard of a battleship. Regrettably I also don´t have any Designation about These specific boats so I can not look for any more details for them. As the Dingyuan (Ting Yuan is actually correctly spelled and spoken Dingyuan according to my beloved native chinese speaking women and means "eternal peace" - what an odd name for a battleship).

The two pictures I do have show the boats in a very light color. The one real Picture show them more lighter than the yellow turrets - thats why I assume I correctly paint them white. The drawing out of a contemporary german dictionary entry show them also in a very bright color but the upper decks in maybe gray and funnel in black?! Makes sense as the funnels in white?! will not last long during service...



What do you all think? Need your opinions
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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 08:52 PM GMT+7
Nice work on the davits Thomas. They look much better than the kit parts for sure.
The torpedo boats are an interesting feature that I havent seen before on a ship. It always seems difficult sort the corect colour scheme with so little historical info about.

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Michael

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Posted: Sunday, December 24, 2017 - 08:10 PM GMT+7
Hello, Merry Christmas from Bavaria to all and thank you that you all like what I´m doing here . I was busy last week and had fun to finish some details at the ship. Lets see what I did:

I finished the compass-platform with all railings and its stairs


Then I finished the Wheel out of 6 tiny parts, primed and painted it and fixed it at its place on the stern upper deck


The two torpedoboats were primed black and are awaiting its final Color. Sources here are contradictory - some show it in plain white, some others in grey. Still not decided which color I will use for them...


Then I cared for the bow lifeboat davits - in BRONCO´s kit they are rather poorly represented and much too thick for my taste. Here was the PE-set from BLUE STAR helpful as they offer you etched davits, each out of 4 parts - clean and careful work is needed here!


same pic taken from a more smaller angle - here you can see clearly the double-T beam. A big difference to the kit´s plastic part


And this is how the lifeboats together with its davits are looking attached to its mothership. Nice eh?


slowly I really need to fix everything on a seabase for a safer work at the ship´s details. Its getting very fragile now
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Posted: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 - 06:37 AM GMT+7
Thomas,

your dockyard workers definitely deserved a beer - sometimes it happens that they even share one with you

That's really a fine job you are doing there and she is already looking beautiful for sure!

Cheers,
Jan
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Posted: Monday, December 18, 2017 - 09:24 AM GMT+7
Great job Thomas,

Coming together really well, the masts look the business in place.

Cheers

Si
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Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 09:35 PM GMT+7
Great work Thomas.
I think I would prefer the rigging to painting 350th scale figures. I am not sure what colour the uniforms were but assuming blue or white I would spray them and just add dots of colour.It's all about perception in that you see what you expect to see and at that size you need a macro lens for us viewers to see the difference.

cheers

Michael
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Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 08:53 PM GMT+7
looking nice and clean Thomas-good work
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Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 01:48 PM GMT+7
Nice work on those launches. She is really shaping up nicely.
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Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 11:26 AM GMT+7
She's looking good, Thomas! I especially like the pleasing contrast between the bright decks and yellow components and the black hull.
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Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 10:33 AM GMT+7
I would not have been able to resist the urge either Thomas, looking good!
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Posted: Sunday, December 17, 2017 - 09:51 AM GMT+7
@ Jan: Dankeschön! I don´t know what I am more scared of: painting the miniscule crew or the rigging job

Today I was able to finish a lot small parts. I did paint a lot of them at the sprue - prime first, paint the needed color, paint the second one, correct some spilled paint spots and so on. First I prepainted all lifeboats and tugs


Then I took care of the second upper deck, painted the red and green position lights and gave the wheelhouse real windows with Kristal Klear - it Looks very cool and realistic now; I like it a lot


The stern upperdeck received some small parts



After this was done I could not hold myself and pre-attached the unfinished 2nd upperdeck and the two masts. The chinese lady slowly becomes beautiful eh?


Now the dockyard workers are off for a well deserved beer...