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1/48 B-17F Build - 303rd BGs Luscious Lady
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Posted: Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 06:08 AM UTC

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Brian,
Once again I'm just speechless.

I would love to attend a series of seminars by HG on how to accomplish just the basic detailing he does including absolutely perfect rescribing.

Joel



As you know, Joel, I'm just calling it as I see it. I'm proud of my work on the interior, but I believe the "diamond in the rough" analogy gets it right. How could I not be happy with the way H.G.'s work blends in with and enhances mine?
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Posted: Sunday, January 19, 2020 - 03:06 AM UTC
Brian,
Your interior detailing was and still is amazing in not only the level but complexity to help recreate reality. Between the two of you the Luscious Lady will be a display piece for years to come. Maybe you should contact the LI museum we met at over the summer as they have a fantastic model display throughout the hanger. They'd surely do the display justice, and I could visit her whenever I wanted to.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, January 23, 2020 - 01:41 PM UTC
CORRECTING THE RADIO ROOM ROOF

H.G. is doing other things, but for the present, I want to concentrate on his remarkable work correcting dimensional flaws in the radio room roof openings.

Let's start with this: the roof openings filled in with some kind of foam to prevent spray into the interior.



Here are the same locations with the foam pulled out.



Man, what a mess. Look at the jagged edges to the window frame all around and the jagged rear of the radio room hatch. I'm not sure how I would've corrected these irregularities if I was doing this, but it is most instructive to see how H.G. is tackling them.

On the window frame he is utilizing something called, for want of a better word, "black goo." Here you can see how poorly the clear glass piece fits into the frame without repair.



And here is what the framework looks like with the initial application of the black goo.



H.G. Describes putting it in the framework this way.


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Next is the black filler that was put on then let set for a few minutes. To prevent it from totally dripping I have to flip it over and then over again. You might say I had this bird on a spit. * * * Obviously more will be added and then it can be reshaped to fit the window dimensions.




And here we see it carefully worked until a frame starts to appear that will match the clear part perfectly.



Damn, that's impressive!

Before leaving this area, H.G. also undertakes to mend the separated curved interior structural member below the window, see above, using this



How?

Watch.





It's not finished but you can see where this is going.

Now on to the main hatch opening, where close scrutiny shows that the interior dimensions are not symmetrical, at least now.




However, here is the "after" shot.



Check out how perfectly rounded the corners at the hatch rear are now!



Wow! And I know there are further refinements to come!
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Posted: Friday, January 24, 2020 - 08:14 AM UTC
Brian,
Simply amazing. HG's consistency of excellence only makes what he can do, even more amazing.

Joel
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Posted: Friday, January 31, 2020 - 03:22 PM UTC
MORE FUSELAGE REPAIRS

H.G.'s work on the fuselage continues, a combination IMO of artistry and tedium as he takes the fuselage between the radio room and the pilots' compartment down to bare metal plastic, uses various fillers to get rid of my imperfect panel lines, scribes some of his own, and then re-primes for scribing and detailing.

When I think of my hours of work on this area way back when combined with his work now, I wonder if this just might be the most OCD'd, overworked model in history. Myth of Sisyphus stuff, though I am sure I am overthinking this and that H.G. would disagree!

Anyway, check this out.



Eeek, a crack!



But I am mailing him a replacement part.

Phenomenal stripping of the center fuselage







with some brass around the cockpit roof windows



that he's not entirely happy with so is modifying the roof to make the brass more flush with its surroundings.



Un-freaking-believable. I would not even have thought of it!

Note the tapes running aft to make straight lines for accurate panel lines.











and the careful measurements providing additional benchmarks for accurate scribing.


Finally, there's this application of filler to correct my "off the mark" lines.





Jeeze!



How is something like this going to clean up? His comment is:


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That was a lot of sanding and I know it looks awful but it's a major step closer to moving to the next area. Please note that most of the lines and white scratches you see are actually filled. Once primed again with Mr. Surfacer, it will hide all that.



We both worry about the windows. How will they clean up?

An even bigger worry is the fit and transparency of the pilots' compartment windows.




For me, these areas are particularly cringeworthy, despite all the effort I put into this all-important area.

I simply have to leave it in H.G.'s capable hands.

There are similar issues with the nose windows, but one challenge at a time!
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Posted: Saturday, February 01, 2020 - 01:57 AM UTC

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MORE FUSELAGE REPAIRS
Both of us worry about the windows.

How is something like this going to clean up?
An even bigger worry is the fit and transparency of the pilots' compartment windows.
There are similar issues with the nose windows, but one challenge at a time!



He is showing amazing good work and art! Most impressive and fun to see. Thank you again for sharing the methods seen here.

As many followers, I am most interested in how to deal with restoring the clear parts. Myself, I am only familiar with the micro sanding, buffing, Pledge / Future coating approach. Please share ways that leave less distortion while getting a crystal clear part? Seems like thickness variation as well as clarity need to be addressed? Excited to learn more! I have the popcorn out. Many thanks- Stuart
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Posted: Saturday, February 01, 2020 - 02:14 AM UTC
Glad you're enjoying it. What you describe is the extent of my "art" too. He's giving a lot of thought to some more creative solutions, including how to bring the nose windows flush with the exterior.