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Fokker D.VII OAW
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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 07:23 AM UTC

The Fokker D.VII became Germany’s main production fighter in 1918. With few idiosyncracies it was not temperamental and a novice with a little nerve could do well. With references on the subject at an all time high Wingnut Wings gives us their version. Lets crack the box!



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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 07:55 AM UTC
Name this pilot.

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Posted: Sunday, January 06, 2013 - 08:38 PM UTC
Very nice review Stephen, as close to a full mark as I've ever seen – Thanks for posting!

As for the pilot – Hmmmm, no not at the moment.

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Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 01:31 AM UTC
Is this ...Willhelm Leusch of Jasta 19 ?




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Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 03:53 AM UTC
Hi Terri! Sorry not Herrn Leusch. Though he was a Fokker D.VII pilot. Think about his uniform.
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Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 04:05 AM UTC
Hi Stephen,

A very young Herman Goring maybe?



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Posted: Monday, January 07, 2013 - 04:14 AM UTC
Greetings spaarndammer!

Not Göring.

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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 - 12:41 AM UTC
Lothar von Richthofen !
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 - 01:15 AM UTC
Not Lothar. The pilot is wearing an Ulanka tunic.
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 - 02:33 AM UTC

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Not Lothar. The pilot is wearing an Ulanka tunic.



Ah – so he does, mmmm –  I'll have to hit the books a bit more!

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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 - 02:58 AM UTC
Rudolph Stark
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 - 03:10 AM UTC
Not Stark either. But he did fly a Fokker D.VII built by OAW.
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Posted: Friday, January 18, 2013 - 10:11 PM UTC
Probably wrong – but is it another Rudolph – Hpt Berthold?

(Though he did'nt fly an OAW to my knowledge... And he had facial hair )

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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 06:13 AM UTC

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Probably wrong – but is it another Rudolph – Hpt Berthold? (Though he did'nt fly an OAW to my knowledge... And he had facial hair )
Mikael



And his uniform did not include a double breasted Ulanka tunic. Not Berthold.
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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 10:30 AM UTC
Ow, this is very difficult, especially as I am not an expert, but I don't like to give up on such questions.

My answer is probably again wrong (I couldn't find a link to the Ulanen Regimenten), but nevertheless, as a final attempt, I suggest that the guy on the photo is Heinrich Claudius Kroll



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Posted: Saturday, January 19, 2013 - 11:52 AM UTC
Sorry sir.Not Kroll.


The son of a school master, H. Kroll volunteered for service when war was declared. While serving at the front with an infantry regiment, he was awarded the Iron Cross, 2nd class, and became a commissioned officer. In 1916 he transferred to the German Air Force. The following year, his fifth victory was over a SPAD VII piloted by the French ace René Dorme. Kroll was shot down several times, twice in flames, but he avoided serious injury until 14 August 1918. On that date, his fighter pilot career ended when he was badly wounded in the left shoulder at Omencourt. 33 victories. Holder of the Orden Pour le Merite (29 March 1918).

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 01:39 PM UTC

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Lothar von Richthofen !



Not Lothar. Lothar did not wear an Ulanka tunic. Facial features of Lothar did change but not to these features.

I may have to sweeten the pot. . .The cropped image is from a frontline chorus. But they didn't sing a note.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 03:19 PM UTC
Ltn Bieber of Jasta 65 ?


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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 03:48 PM UTC

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Ltn. Bieber. . .? Terri



Not Bieber. He is the fellow behind the mystery man.



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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 03:55 PM UTC
Ltn. Heinz Frhr von Beaulieu - Marconnay?

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 04:12 PM UTC

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Ltn. Heinz Frhr von Beaulieu - Marconnay?

Terri



That is the fellow. Olivier's (that is the correct spelling) big brother. Now tell us how you came to the answer?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 04:38 PM UTC
Really ? are you sure you want to know ?

After spend a bit of time looking in my refs and coming up with nil , google wasn't my friend either ....he was with holding you know ..

I then asked asked on my forum and went over to the WNW site to double check this info . WNW have this on their decal set # 3008 "Fokker D.VII (OAW) Fighting Fokkers part 3" (U.10)

Learn about this photo and a bit about leaading to other info on some books to check out in the future .(Jasta Pilots and Above the Lines ) However , it has been pointed out that some of the info is incorrect in the book , still one I will be looking for.

Just about finished Sagittarius Rising ......love it so far , different then reading about " just the aircraft "


Terri




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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 04:57 PM UTC
What a shame , all that energy expended when all you had to do was follow the bread crumbs. And check the img properties.

Click here.

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Posted: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 - 05:03 PM UTC
Well , if I was do something it sure won't be the easy way of going about things.

I did learn about him and of a book I have not heard of before so I'm pretty stoked right now.

Questions are our greatest resource, if we don't ask , we don't learn . . .

Oh , about those bread crumbs, they were'nt 100 % whole wheat you know . . .

Terri