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Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 01:20 AM UTC
Yes Robert, you are right! It wasn't at the end of the war - but the time, when the MG15 became redundant as an aircraft weapon, because the Luftwaffe changed to heavy armament like MG 131 or MG151.
My first posting was based on this german Wikipedia article: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_15
"Gegen Kriegsende gab die Luftwaffe die Bestände ab..." = "Near the end of the war, the Luftwaffe delivered their stock..." The MG15 were modified for infantry use, but maybe the KM had the better connections to the Luftwaffe, to get that weapen earlier...

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Posted: Sunday, May 08, 2011 - 09:05 AM UTC
Michael, Robert,

Thank you both; I remeber a picture of a 1:25 model which had a MG 34 on the front and for ammo supply, the soldier had something looking lime a backpack mounted on the axle of the MG 34, the constelation looked logical to me, when you make your approach you don't want to run out of ammo, this was driving my question for MG type and ammo.

regards

Christian
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 10:02 AM UTC
Robert,
Do you have any other photos ( or links ) showing twin MG's on the S-38?

I have seen the fuzzy photos in the Squadron book and in the Dalles-Labourdette books, but they are not clear enough to give me confidence when scratch-building the mountings.

From these and other photos, it looks as if some S-38b ships had the MG34 zwillingssockel after the bridge, twin MG34's(?) near the torpedo tubes and 2 single MG15's on the bridge itself.

I am building different versions of the S-38 and S-38b from the Revell kits, scratch building the bridge, adding the 40mm Bofors, etc., although my painting is so poor that I am embarrassed to upload any photos.

I have scratch-built a few zwillingssockel, as well, which took months to figure out because of the complex mount that had to be simplified for /172 scale.

Thanks,
Leo
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Posted: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:36 PM UTC
Hi Leo,

And welcome to the club. Here's another picture with a twin-mounted MG15 fitted right behind the forecastle. Unfortunately to this state, none of the pictures I have describe clearly how the zwillingssockel looks like... I can’t promise it but if you let me some time, I might get this information for you. Just be patient.

I am myself, sort of embarrassed since I haven't used the airbrush for over 20 years (!) Count down is now on its way that may well trigger soon a general fit of the giggles -- in which you'll be part of! So, don't be afraid to plunge into the fray yourself. Seeing scratch-builds of additional S-Boats will interest more than a modeler here, no question!

Robert
1/35 scale S-100 & S-38B plans: http://rpalmacci.free.fr
Email: rpalmacci@free.fr
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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 04:23 AM UTC
Robert,
Thank you for the quick reply.

The picture you attached looks like the zwillingssockel installed behind the bridge on the S-38b and some S-38's , as described in the Squadron book.

This is the 1st photo I have seen of a zwillingssockel with MG15s : The photos I had found were with MG34 or MG42.

There was a site devoted to the zwillingssockel(!), but it seems to have been taken down : http://www.zwillingssockel.com.

Anyway, I have been able to find several good photos of that mount, but no good pictures of the 2 twin MGs on the port and starboard deck. I am certain that they did not use the zwillingssockel mount due to lack of space.

So, I was particularly interested in the photo you had that showed twin MS on either side of the bridge of an S-38 near the torpedo tubes.

There is a picture on the top of p. 161 of the Dallies-Labourdette book that shows the twin mount ( and the zwillingssockel ), but not clearly enough to be able to model it.

That is what I am trying to do.

Thanks also for your encouraging words about uploading photos,
Leo


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Posted: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 05:13 AM UTC
Leo,

I can precisely see the picture you're referring yourself to in Labourdette's book. It's Achim Quistorp's S133 boat! A whole roll of film is available from the French military archives and although it is taken from a distance, I can tell his twin-mounted MGs are MG15.

I invite you to contact me via email. I think I've found exactly what you're looking for. It looks much simpler than standing on a zwillingssockel.

Robert
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 04:09 AM UTC
And with some delay, here's the trolley for the LMB/S mine.

Robert
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 05:46 AM UTC
Hi Robert,
nice work - amazing!
I'm curious about your beasts quarterdeck

Michael
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Posted: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 09:36 PM UTC
And so am I, Michael! Thank you for your comment.

Robert
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Posted: Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 10:01 AM UTC




Gotrek58
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Posted: Monday, May 23, 2011 - 06:02 AM UTC
35 miles southeast Harwich, midnight: "6-pounders ready? Open fire - NOW!"
End of a "delighted" sea voyage!

Nice work, Pawel!

Michael
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Posted: Friday, June 03, 2011 - 11:37 PM UTC
OK... And what if after having spent for ages my time at correcting that damned ship, all of a sudden, to my heart's content, I had the desire for a little game with 'Thomas the Tank Engine', h'mm? Some said it could be after all a relaxing therapy before going thru the painting session.
Ermm… frankly speaking, wasn’t really!!


But first, there's the other rail to be done... Aaarrgghh !!!

Robert
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 01:41 AM UTC
Hi Robert,
I see that you are still working on the ultimate E-boat Did you ever hear anymore from Arjan Wiskerke? Did he ever finish his build?
Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 06:27 AM UTC

Hi Robert,
straight on the way to the Hall of Fame in S-Boat -Modelling!


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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 07:50 AM UTC
Hello Friends,

I did write to Cammets about the seamines because I need some for my boot.
The answer from Cammets is that they did sell the masters of the mines to a other firm.

The former Cammet mines will be availible with in 8 weeks from now.
Are there any sugestions for other parts of the S-100 you may contact him.
My suggestion is to ask for the differend radar masts.
Or the othere types of mines.

Robert maybe you can play a role in this matter by providing him with material about the mines and the rails ?

Greetings Bert

See the Emails below

Ok keep me posted.
I will send a message to the S_100 forum on kitmaker that the mines will be back on the marked.
Do you plan other parts for the S-100 boat?

Greetings

Bert Koopman

Van: Jay Laverty [mailto:jay@mastercasters.co.uk]
Verzonden: donderdag 2 juni 2011 17:47
Aan: Albert G. Koopman
Onderwerp: Re: FW: S-100

Hi Albert;

Thank you for your e-mail.

I am currently in the process of having the sets cast and will be re-releasing them in the next 6 to 8 weeks with any luck. I will drop you an e-mail when we are ready with the sets.

all the best,

Jay



On 30/05/2011 19:32, Albert G. Koopman wrote:
Dear sir,

I’m searching for a set of the former Cammett seamines for the Italeri S-100.
Can you inform me when they are available and the costs.


X
the Netherlands

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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 07:56 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Did you ever hear anymore from Arjan Wiskerke? Did he ever finish his build?
Cheers,
Julian



Julian
He is still a live and kicking have seen a mails from him lately on the Twenot Forum.
But I don't now the status of his boot.
Could ask him if you like.

groet Bert
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 06:35 PM UTC
Hi Albert, glad to hear he is okay. I was curious about him finishing his build. He certainly started "the mother of all threads" here online Say hello from me if you run into him online.
Cheers,
Julian
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 06:49 AM UTC
Hi Guys

Found this walkaround on the MG zwillingsockel.

http://svsm.org/gallery/20mm_zwillingsokel36/P1230169

Hope it will give enough info for those intrested in using it on there boot.

Greetings Bert
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 10:49 PM UTC
Given the fact they were four and of French origin, frankly, what other names could have they been given?

Robert
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Posted: Sunday, July 03, 2011 - 12:37 AM UTC
Pawel

Great Pictures thanks

Like to see more on your S 38

I will start on my S 38 deck soon

Again great pictures thanks

Bill
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Posted: Monday, August 01, 2011 - 02:18 PM UTC
I have a quick question for my boat

I have been on and off again working on this project, and was curious if anyone knows what would be needed to mount the Quad Flak setup on the rear deck.

I know several companies have recently released kits of the Quad and I was picturing it on the back of mine.

Mind you, I am still working on the bridge area
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 12:15 AM UTC
Hello and welcome to the forum, Chandler.

If this may be of some help to you, I think to have bought all Quad sets available on the market and I believe the best one so far, is the one released by Dragon (set #6547).
http://www.modelarmour.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1101:dragon-2cm-flakvierling-38-late-production&catid=37:kits&Itemid=60

Among the many improvements brought to the set is the plastic-made shield, giving a better representation of its thickness rather than the PE reproduction that can be found with the Trumpeter's model.
Beside, part #67A with its bolted ring (3rd photo, 5th row) can advantageously replace the ring that has to be scratch-built for making the pedestal I propose on my website page 2, on which the quad has to lay over.
http://rpalmacci.free.fr

Good luck with your build!
Robert
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Posted: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 10:42 AM UTC
Hey, thanks for the info

I really like the look of the Quad flak 38

I am really new to ship modeling, I was building Tamiya's awesome IJN Mikuma, but it met a horrible fate on my model table.

I have the Schnellboot and the Lion Roar PE set I am using, and I am also slowly building the Trumpeter 1/350 Kirov, with a PE set and proper color paints from White Ensign

I have the Italeri M.A.S. boat, but want to wait for a large PE set to come out
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Posted: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 04:40 AM UTC
Gentlemen,

Here are some pictures (9pictures in total) from the meeting of the 8th Schnellbootflotille in Amersfoort in the Netherlands, enjoy:

http://www.modelbouwforum.nl/forums/bouwverslagen-schepen/72708-bouwverslag-8ste-schnellboot-flottille-italeri-1-35-a.html