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Italeri 1/35 scale S-100 Schnellboot
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2011 - 03:44 AM UTC
Dear Gentlemen,

on the S130 Restoration side I found the picture of the bow gun I would like to share with you:



hope you find this interesting. The original picture can be found under:

http://www.s130.co.uk/index.php/galleries/

hope you all had a good start in this year.

kind regards

Christian
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Posted: Monday, January 10, 2011 - 07:16 AM UTC
Nice picture Christian thanks.

But we will need more under differend angles before it wil be use full.
Has any one of us contacts with them ??

Bert
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 05:22 AM UTC
@Bert,
You can always contact Brian Steven Balkwill, there. I'm sure he'll be more than happy to help.

Now... Hocus Pocus! Operation 'RaG' is now over.




Robert
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 07:33 AM UTC
Robert

A Great job done :-)
Have seen a picture of a Rage on one of the boots after the surrender in the harbor of Den Helder.
I'm still working on my schlaugboot makeing it a little bit diferend as your example.
The basic colour is on the boot and the first layer of varnis.
Will make some pictures when ready.

Greetings Bert
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 10:26 AM UTC
Gentlemen,

I took the liberty to made the torpedo tubes operational as you can see in the following two movies uploaded on youtube. The port torpedo is already loaded with a AAA battery put still makes some cm on the fly. The Range those torpedos fly really depend on how sudden the servo is hitting the pneumatic switch, therefore, next time I will use an assistant to make the film and not doing all on my own. Hope you enjoy it. I will now work on the torpedo when finally my 12 mm DC engines and my 122 props arrive...

Rear View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8FPAnZ1Bw
Front view: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuOKUp-uQMk



CU

Christian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O8FPAnZ1Bw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuOKUp-uQMk
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 10:33 AM UTC
Impressive Work Robert even the srcew heads are there and the levers to fix or unfix direction and angle of the launcher.
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Posted: Friday, January 14, 2011 - 10:56 PM UTC
Thank you Christian.

I tried my best to make it look like an original and better reproduced Italeri part!
Next step will be the third and last depression rail behind our 3.7cm gun where this picture gives a good idea of what its shape was... Then...
I guess I'll be done and go on painting!



Robert

ps: a friend is building Italeri's MAS. The 20mm Breda gun is wrong and needs a lot to be corrected. Amazing. It's an Italian gun! Italeri should REALLY avoid releasing boats. They really aren't good at it!!!!
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 10:01 AM UTC
Typ S-100

FuMB-28 Naxos











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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:20 AM UTC
This model is a bit different from the Naxos antenna that can be found in Squadron's book page 51 and elsewhere, Pawel.
The photo and drawing reproduced there match closer this one that you can see is still functionning in Germany.
Some bit of work here and there and it should do it.

Robert
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:24 AM UTC

This model Naxos In uboot






Shipyard



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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:33 AM UTC

Quoted Text

This model is a bit different from the Naxos antenna that can be found in Squadron's book page 51 and elsewhere, Pawel.



And your antenna next to it, made of a ring is much, much too small! Scale1/72?
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:37 AM UTC
high Pavel,

nice shipyard you have there. What is the 3rd hull you have there? Which model are you planning to build?

Christian
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:38 AM UTC
I have documentation that looks like mine

but everything in its time
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:43 AM UTC
were two versions Naxos
mounted on the U-Boot, it was taken off in time of coming down under water
second version was constant,
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 10:11 PM UTC

Quoted Text

high Pavel,

nice shipyard you have there. What is the 3rd hull you have there? Which model are you planning to build?

Christian



S-25 type S-18
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Posted: Monday, January 17, 2011 - 11:56 PM UTC
Robert
I am not having very good luck cutting out my frames for my S 81,so I thought i would get a Italeri 1/35 scale S-100 Schnellboot kit and turn it into a Type 38.
and make it R/C.

What are your thoughts on turning the S 100 kit into a type 38.

Hope you are feeling better

Bill Bibeault
almost sunny Ga.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 01:40 AM UTC
There is no denying you have done some remarkable work at transforming your S-38 Pawel.
And since you certainly spent a large amount of time at it, I'd be delighted sharing with you some debatable points... If you may allow me, of course.
I'll limit myself to these following four points. Hope it will help:

A - You'll agree that those openings standing in front allowed seeing through. Correct? So... Why aren't they visible from inside your open bridge? My analysis is that you placed the dashboard too high, obstructing therefore the window effect.

B- I can only but regret the fact you used some 0.5mm plastic board to scratch build the forecastle. A 1mm one would have surely been more appropriate.

C- As Brian Balkwill, who works with the Wheatcroft Collection, mentioned it somewhere on this thread (and on S-38 original plans as well), the RZA5 targeting computer wasn't placed centered on the bridge, but more likely standing a bit off to port. And this goes for all S-38 boats.

D- I'm afraid your radar is out of scale, Pawel. Much too small. And its base on which it was rotating should deserve some detail. After all the effort you've deployed, it would be a pity to resume it to a simple hand grenade pin.

Regards.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 01:44 AM UTC
Sorry to hear the frames are giving you some pain, Bill.
With the help of the plans you bought at ANB’s in Italy, I assume you’re equipped to take up the challenge!

I think with the patience, good will and the right documentation, three things you already possess… you can make the mountain to come to you.

So yes, DO go ahead! And in case you need some help, you know which door to knock at.

Robert
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 02:43 AM UTC
A-You right my mistake, and I noticed it some time ago, and seems aware of it

B-0,5x35=17,5 it is too coarse 1x35=35 thats going too far

C-According to my plans is centrally

D-Probably, you have reasons
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 03:54 AM UTC
Again, Squadron book page 20 -- among others, and original German plans, Pawel.

Bill, you who are a walkin' encyclopedia to what concerns the S-38.
In your 50+ books about Schnellboote, can you please tell us where that targeting computer was located, please, please?

No offense Pawel, but I feel like preaching in the desert!!!
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 04:11 AM UTC
Robert

I will look when I get home--at work right now.

Being in and around boats for the last 70 years I would think that it would be in the center of the boat to give you a true reading from the center of the boat.

However you are right Robert lets prove it.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 04:20 AM UTC
Robert

Off center by a hair.
I still can not post pictures here for some reason.
I sent you a email with the drawings of the S 81 and it shows that it is off center.

Bill
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 04:41 AM UTC
I found a picture



unless you re right
but whether all S-38 that was?
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Posted: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 - 05:53 AM UTC
Aaah! That's better, we're almost getting there!

Now, have you the whole sheet where this drawing comes from? If so, on it is reproduced a view from above where you can distinctly see that our RZA5 is off centered... by more than a hair, sorry Bill!

These plans come from a captured Schnellboot in Italy. Bill Balkwill at Wheatcroft's which restore S-130 in England, mentioned the fact as well. And if you look very, very close to all the photos, yes to what I can tell, all had that spec.

You're welcome to send me an email if you want, Pawel.

Robert
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Posted: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 - 12:37 AM UTC
HI Robert


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A - You'll agree that those openings standing in front allowed seeing through. Correct? So... Why aren't they visible from inside your open bridge? My analysis is that you placed the dashboard too high, obstructing therefore the window effect.


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C- As Brian Balkwill, who works with the Wheatcroft Collection, mentioned it somewhere on this thread (and on S-38 original plans as well), the RZA5 targeting computer wasn't placed centered on the bridge, but more likely standing a bit off to port. And this goes for all S-38 boats.


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Regards.